Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by dusan147 » 27 Aug 2022, 04:09

Good morning chrener, could you give the photo of this key, please?
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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by chrener » 01 Sep 2022, 07:49

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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by dusan147 » 01 Sep 2022, 14:01

Today I tried one non original key and all works (keyless entry, remote opening of doors and trunk) but without possibility of activation/deactivation of alarm.
Additionally, it is important to emphasize fail of "Key programming" and "Enable FOBIK's" options of MES (some error about transponder appeared).
What is the source of problem in impossibility of cooperation between non original key and alarm?
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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by dusan147 » 02 Sep 2022, 14:40

Response from Keetec and solution of problems I hope...
"Our security systems read informations about lock/unlock of vehicle from the control units.
Spare key which was made by workshop is third or fourth in order and it communicate on different bites
and bytes as first and second key. For proper work of alarm is necessary to place spare key to second place
in row of keys. We are really sorry for complications. For any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me."
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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by dusan147 » 03 Sep 2022, 15:06

Problem finally and mainly solved!
Andrija Beg, owner of "Beg" well-known local key management workshop resolved problem in two steps:
a) erased all seven programmed keys by use of one key management software and
b) programmed two keys,
- factory original (right on picture) and
- spare key which is almost identical to factory original (left on picture),
by use of another software.
Only problem is with remote opening of trunk and remote opening/closing of windows by use of the spare key, but it is tolerable because spare key is more than twice cheaper than original.
Maybe some here in forum have some idea about solving of that small difficulty?
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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by dusan147 » 07 Sep 2022, 16:52

News...
Today I tried to recognize what code send my spare key to Alfa.
When I press button for remote opening of trunk on original key, MES it recognize as "Boot" button code.
When I do it with spare key MES shows that is "Panic" button code. It is reason why spare key refuse to open trunk.
Could you give a solution for this issue or explanation, at least...
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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by chrener » 07 Sep 2022, 17:23

Hi!
Look at my photo of 5btn key and then on yours... Panic button is same placed on fobik. I think that you have 5btn board in 3btn case...
Try to enable PANIC on Byte 126=80 and align proxi and try...
Two videos of how it works...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Chph-ttokXS/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D

First video: remote start, second video: panic feature
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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by dusan147 » 07 Sep 2022, 21:00

I saw this trick on

https://www.giuliaforums.com/threads/panic-button-disable-with-mes.56002/#post-955146

and my dilemmas are:
a) what will be with behaviour of original factory key after that change and
b) if my spare key send "Panic" code to Giulia from 2016, which maybe haven't this option, what will be result? What is the benefit? Opening of trunk?
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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by shpuncik » 08 Sep 2022, 07:34

check Chinese key PCB - maybe there is some kind of way to switch it between 3 and 5 buttons fobs

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Re: Alfa Giulia - problem with copied key

Post by chrener » 08 Sep 2022, 10:33

shpuncik wrote:
08 Sep 2022, 07:34
check Chinese key PCB - maybe there is some kind of way to switch it between 3 and 5 buttons fobs
On chinese fobiks you need to "generate" it first, and then code it to car. Fobik functions depends on how was generated. You can also learn any button on specific function with programmer...
After coding 5btn fobik, original works normally as usually...
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