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Alfa Stevlio QV SWG/ ELM327 question

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 16:32
by jstaal
Good morning,
New to this whole SWG world, and cannot get a clear defined answer whether or not my 03/2018 build for North America was shipped with a SWG. I can access body control module, brake module with grey cable, I am able to login to the instrument cluster and reset the date and mileage for service, however I cannot access the CAN BUS module. I am trying to determine whether or not the settings are just incorrect for the ELM 327 timers etc. or this is due to swg in series with vehicle. Attached is my module list if that helps. I can execute body control commands such as horn, turn signal etc.. Thank you for any advice/ answers.

Engine / ECM
Bosch Motronic MeD17.3.5 CF6 Injection (2.9 V6, Primary, Cyl. 1-2-3)
ISO Code: 00 01 50 97 15
VIN code: ZASFAKEV1J7C13336
Hardware number: 0261S11305 - Ver: 00
Software number: 10SW030617D - Ver: 0000

Dashboard / IPC (Instrument Panel Cluster)
Instrument Panel Continental
ISO Code: 00 03 50 8B 14
VIN code: ZASFAKEV1J7C13336
Hardware number: A2C11140400 - Ver: 01
Software number: AR952 HL - Ver: 2022

Engine / ECM2
Bosch Motronic MeD17.3.5 CF6 Injection (2.9 V6, Secondary, Cyl. 4-5-6)
ISO Code: 00 01 50 99 15
VIN code: ZASFAKEV1J7C13336
Hardware number: 0261S11305 - Ver: 00
Software number: 10SW030617S - Ver: 0000

Gearbox / TCM/NCA/NCR (Automatic Transmission)
ZF 8HP50/75 Automatic Gearbox
ISO Code: 00 0B 50 AA 14
VIN code: ZASFAKEV1J7C13336
Hardware number: 10344202761 - Ver: 20
Software number: GK0901PB6HN - Ver: 0001

Gearbox / DTCM (Drive Train Control Module)
Magna Q4 Transfer Case
ISO Code: 00 43 50 91 14
VIN code: ZASFAKEV1J7C13336
Hardware number: M0045027.01 - Ver: 21
Software number: M0107785 - Ver: 0501

Gearbox / ESM/GSM/NSC (Gearbox Selector Module)
ZF Electronic Gear Shift Module
ISO Code: 00 16 50 B4 14
VIN code: ZASFAKEV1J7C13336
Hardware number: 1000597140 - Ver: 08
Software number: 1000678050 - Ver: 0024

Body / BCM (Body Computer Module)
Body Computer Marelli (949)
ISO Code: 00 00 70 7C 15
VIN code: ZASFAKEV1J7C13336
Hardware number: BCM949M_C02 - Ver: 01
Software number: 04441660441 - Ver: 1454

Body / RFHUB (Radio Frequency Hub Module)
Radio frequency hub (RFHUB) Continental
ISO Code: 00 41 50 89 15
VIN code: ZASFAKEV1J7C13336
Hardware number: 10161500AA - Ver: 01
Software number: 10307064AB - Ver: 0940

Other / DASM (Driver Assistant System Module)
Driver assistant system module (DASM) radar Bosch
ISO Code: 00 39 70 7E 15
6/9/2023 11:36:21 AM
vehicle diagnostics software for italian cars
2 www.multiecuscan.net
VIN code: ZASFAKEV1J7C13336
Hardware number: MRR1evo14F - Ver: 00
Software number: 52098443 - Ver: 0502

Re: Alfa Stevlio QV SWG/ ELM327 question

Posted: 14 Jun 2023, 06:34
by shpuncik
if you can delete errors, perform/activate some tests then you don't have SGW.
what do you mean by CAN bus module? there is no such thing. if you are talking about CAN Setup/Proxi which you can't access then you should check your settings. MES includes manual how to setup everything.

Re: Alfa Stevlio QV SWG/ ELM327 question

Posted: 14 Jun 2023, 21:14
by jstaal
Thank you. Yes I cannot access the can setup /proxi. Just get the recommendation to select high-speed elm327 however I did not try adjusting timers etc.

Re: Alfa Stevlio QV SWG/ ELM327 question

Posted: 15 Jun 2023, 07:36
by s130
I had similar issue back in 2017 on my 500X.

Yani advised

Thank you for checking this so quickly.
I think that you did a mistake in the configuration. You have to select interface type as “ELM 327 1.3/1.4/1.4b/2.1 (High Speed)”. It is the last item on bottom of the list. Then leave the port settings at 38400.
The speed of the ELM interface is automatically changed to 115200 during a diagnostic session by Multiecuscan. After disconnecting it is restored back to 38400.


At the time Yani raised a concern that although all ELM modules should support higher speeds

All interfaces should be able to work at 115200, 230400, 500000 and even higher. I’m just not sure how stable this runs on the large variety of Chinese circuits.
The OBDLink can also work at higher speeds, but they seem to have better buffering than ELM as we do not have problems


On the Jeep Renegade there were still some issues so MES 3.5R2 used 230400 instead. Since 2017 & MES 3.5R2 I've not had issues and I assume that the current MES uses 230400 for Proxi connections on all vehicles.

Personally since then I've stuck with OBDLINK SX.

Re: Alfa Stevlio QV SWG/ ELM327 question

Posted: 15 Jun 2023, 19:07
by jstaal
Thank you for the recommendation to go with obd sx

Re: Alfa Stevlio QV SWG/ ELM327 question

Posted: 15 Jun 2023, 19:46
by s130
You are welcome.

I can not guarantee that an OBDLINK SX interface will solve your problem. If it does not at least your have extra information etc. to throw in MES Support's direction.

Please report back on how you get on!