Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

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newlife81
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Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by newlife81 » 31 Oct 2012, 23:07

Hello

I´ve got a Question:
Is it possible to test the controls on the steering wheel with FES/MES?
My Radio doesn´t react if I push the "mute" oder "louder" button and now I would like to find the fault.

Could anyone help me please?




EDIT: I´m sorry for posting in wrong section :-(

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Re: Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by Aron96 » 01 Nov 2012, 08:44

Hello newlife81,
Multiecuscan with this test not done yet, but I suggest you first try the error diagnosed with disconnect the negative battery terminal for about 2mins then try but always in the context of ignition

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Re: Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by tzok » 01 Nov 2012, 21:46

Do you have the original car audio? Does hour horn work? Don't you have SRS/AirBag fault indicator lit?

newlife81
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Re: Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by newlife81 » 15 Nov 2012, 17:07

Hi und thanks for your help.

I put in an original car audio, bevor there where build in an other radio.
My horn works fine and I don´t have any fault indicator lit.

May ist be the wrong original Radio?

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Re: Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by yani » 16 Nov 2012, 06:35

newlife81 wrote:My Radio doesn´t react if I push the "mute" oder "louder" button and now I would like to find the fault.
Doe it mean that only these 2 buttons do not work and the other buttons work fine?

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Re: Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by newlife81 » 16 Nov 2012, 12:50

yes! that´s right

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Re: Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by yani » 16 Nov 2012, 15:07

That is strange. See the wiring diagram of Grande Punto steering wheel control.
The Mute, Vol+ and Vol- buttons are on the same wires. So, if one of the wires is interrupted then the 3 buttons should not work.
It is possible that these 2 buttons buttons are damaged.
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newlife81
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Re: Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by newlife81 » 16 Nov 2012, 15:47

i´ve heard about this fact and the functionality with the resistors.
it may be the controls (about 65€ at the Dealer), but I can´t eliminate possibility that the fault is caused of the (wrong / broken) head unit.

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Re: Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by s130 » 17 Nov 2012, 10:05

Deciding if the buttons or the head unit are are fault should not be that difficult to do.

If a good quality volt meter is connected between terminals 35 & 50 and 35 & 52 then when each of the buttons is pressed you should see different voltages. With no button pressed then the voltage will be high (by high I mean non zero). When the Mute button is pressed the voltage should drop a little. When the Vol+ is pressed is should drop a little further. When the Vol- is pressed the voltage should drop the most.

Alternatively you can unplug the key unit (DO47) cable and do resistive measurements instead.

Assuming the resistors used are of similar/same value on the Volume and Source/Scan banks then you should be able to also detect internal breaks, shorts or permanently stuck buttons.
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Re: Grande Punto 2005, steering wheel controls testable?

Post by alexandru c » 10 Feb 2013, 13:03

tzok wrote:Do you have the original car audio? Does hour horn work? Don't you have SRS/AirBag fault indicator lit?
Hi to all,
I have a similar problem and i have the airbag fault indicator, also i want to say that my buttons works but not as they should work, sometime dont work at all and sometimes they work but for example, when i press the -volume button the volume rise and when i press the +volume button the music is putted on pause or mute, and also sometimes they work well, i suppose it have different actions depending from steering wheel position. The airbag fault indicator is not always on is turning on and off when i drive the car. Thank you very much and i`m sorry if i have a bad english. Have a nice day.

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