Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

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junesongnow
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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by junesongnow » 03 Jan 2012, 05:49

I need logs via Alfa One fifty nine which has foldable showcases. No one provides put up a firewood via 159 with foldable mirrors nevertheless.
Concerning the automatic home windows : I think you need hardware modifications to enable this performance. So far as I recall 159 it makes use of anti-trap detectors about every single front door. Thus, you have to set up the actual detectors as well as resistors to replicate those sensors first.
I can't remember for sure on the other hand believe there were some people through the various other strings who do this particular.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by tomsa » 20 Jan 2012, 10:24

camil wrote:
yani wrote:
maunu wrote:I did send log from my car that has foldin mirrors. It's posted in Alfa 147 window auto closure discussion.
My car is 159 my06 sw with remote closing windows and floding mirrors. Also it has rain sensor that I would like to disable.
So, your car has folding mirrors? I didn't know that.
IMHO, he doesn't. I haven't seen any Alfa 159 with automatically folding mirrors... unless he's got something custom modified:)

Yani, I would like to ask, how similar are the body computers from Brera, Spider and Alfa 159. I'm asking, because I have situation like that: for now I've got a Spider Nuova (2007) 2,4 JTDm. It is not supported by FES, but I did Proxy Alignment from Brera 2,4 JTDm, and what I've observed is:
- I've got automatically folding mirrors which is very good:)
- I've lost on-screen indicator when I'm opening or closing a sunroof which is bad:(
additionally, earlier I've added an on-screen parking indicator and I've made a proxi alignment from 159 and it does work (which is either very good:)).

One more thing which I cannot run is closing windows from a key. I've got anti-trap sensors, and it seems they are working, becasue I have correct voltage on it (look for the screens below):
drivers_door.jpg
passengers_door.jpg
So I don't really know why it still doesn't work. Any ideas?

And about auto folding mirrors, I think only way to make it work is copy this function from Brera/Spider computer to 159 computrer. If it's possible ofcourse.
Hi Yani,

will window closure function work on any release if I have the trap-sensors in place, or when to exspect this function please.
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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by marqo » 02 Mar 2012, 19:05

Yani,
What is progress of work to add Window closure and Auto wing mirror close?
Thanks,
marqo
Alfa 159 1.9 JTDm 16V 180CV noDPF
Fiat 500X CityLook 1.6 e-torque 110CV

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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by yani » 10 Mar 2012, 13:56

I don't think that folding of mirrors is possible, but I'm still experimenting with the windows' closing function of Alfa 159.
Actually, my Alfa 159 has the closing from remote control and I'm trying to disable it... so far the attempts are unsuccessful...
Can you post the ISO codes of driver/passenger door control modules and boot control module of an Alfa which does not have windows-up function from the remote control?
I've noticed (in eLearn) that the lower trim door control modules do not have support for anti-trap sensors at all.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by marqo » 11 Mar 2012, 12:52

yani wrote:Can you post the ISO codes of driver/passenger door control modules and boot control module of an Alfa which does not have windows-up function from the remote control?
Here are my logs from driver door. I haven't the automatic closure, but I've replaced the original windows gasket which was without the anti-trap sensor to the old one with anti-trap sensor.

ECU ISO Code: 86 07 8C 04 F2
2012-03-10 18:13:10
CONNECTED TO:
ALFA 159 1.9 MJET 16V
Driver's Door (G.E. PROCOND)
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ECU ISO code: 86 07 8C 04 F2
FIAT drawing number: 50510086
Hardware number: 60-010000
Hardware version: 0A
Software number: NPG 939
Software version: 0505
Homologation number:
ECU programming date: 07/20/2007

READING PARAMETERS:
Anti-trap sensor: V
Alfa 159 1.9 JTDm 16V 180CV noDPF
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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by camil » 12 Mar 2012, 09:38

maunu wrote:
yani wrote:I need logs from Alfa 159 that has folding mirrors. Noone has posted a log from 159 with folding mirrors yet.
About the automatic windows - I think you need hardware modifications to enable this functionality. As far as I remember 159 it uses anti-trap sensors on each door. So, you need to install the sensors or resistors to simulate those sensors first.
I don't remember for sure but I think that there were a few people from the other threads who did this.
I did send log from my car that has foldin mirrors. It's posted in Alfa 147 window auto closure discussion.
My car is 159 my06 sw with remote closing windows and floding mirrors. Also it has rain sensor that I would like to disable.
I'll write it again, because not everyone understand:
Yani needs a log from ALFA 159 which has AUTOMATICALLY FOLDING MIRRORS LIKE IN BRERA OR SPIDER (when you get out of the car, and lock it from remote, mirrors will fold automatically). NOT MANUALLY by pushing a button on drivers door. Does anyone has that function enabled? I don't think so, because there Was no such option i 159, only in Brera and Spider. But maybe I'm wrong, and there is someone who enabled that function somehow. It would be great!
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Best Regards
Camil

Alfa 159 2,4 Q4

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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by yani » 15 Mar 2012, 06:59

marqo wrote: Here are my logs from driver door. I haven't the automatic closure, but I've replaced the original windows gasket which was without the anti-trap sensor to the old one with anti-trap sensor.

ECU ISO Code: 86 07 8C 04 F2
2012-03-10 18:13:10
CONNECTED TO:
ALFA 159 1.9 MJET 16V
Driver's Door (G.E. PROCOND)
--------------------------------------------------------------

ECU ISO code: 86 07 8C 04 F2
FIAT drawing number: 50510086
Hardware number: 60-010000
Hardware version: 0A
Software number: NPG 939
Software version: 0505
Homologation number:
ECU programming date: 07/20/2007

READING PARAMETERS:
Anti-trap sensor: V
My Driver's door module is the same:

ECU ISO code: 86 07 8C 04 F2
FIAT drawing number: 50504213
Hardware number: 60-010000
Hardware version: 0A
Software number: NPG 939
Software version: 0503
Homologation number:
ECU programming date: 01/29/2007

READING PARAMETERS:
Outside temperature: 2.4 °C
Anti-trap sensor: 3.88 V
Window riser current: 0.0 A
Window cut-off current: 0.0 A
Mirror fold current: 0.00 A


I have the automatic windows and the trap sensors are showing correct reading.
Please send me (or post here) the 3 lines after "CAN CONFIGURATION DATA:" from a PROXI log from your car. I need to compare this with my car.
I know that you've probably sent me this data before but I cannot find it now.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by marqo » 17 Mar 2012, 07:14

yani wrote: Please send me (or post here) the 3 lines after "CAN CONFIGURATION DATA:" from a PROXI log from your car. I need to compare this with my car.
05 72 9F DB 05 72 9F DB 00 30 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
05 72 9F DB 00 22 05 09 05 72 9F DB 00 22 05 09 00 22 05 09
32 31 31 34 30 30 30 36 31 36 31 4F 55 54 50 55 54 2D 4A 49 54 20 06 07 10 DB 9F 72 05 09 05 22 00 C3 65 20 07 B7 00 14 10 00 06 B4 06 01 00 00 06 08 00 00 42 50 67 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 42 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Alfa 159 1.9 JTDm 16V 180CV noDPF
Fiat 500X CityLook 1.6 e-torque 110CV

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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by marqo » 30 Mar 2012, 14:54

Hi Yani,
Does the data atached by me helped you?
Alfa 159 1.9 JTDm 16V 180CV noDPF
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Re: Alfa Romeo 159 Window closure and Auto wing mirror close

Post by yani » 30 Mar 2012, 15:41

I did not have much time to play with the windows...
However, the data from your car is the same as the data from my car (and my windows go up/down automatically and the trap sensors show correct readings)... so, the problem is not in the configuration.
I haven't checked the exact wiring diagram, but is it possible that the connections are cut/terminated inside the control unit?
We've seen this kind of trick in Grande Punto - the cruise control lines are disconnected inside the body computer.

It is really strange that your door control module doesn't show readings for the trap sensors.

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