Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

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illiac4
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by illiac4 » 08 May 2011, 08:34

Can someone also upload the schematics picture for Alfa 159.

Did someone successfully simulated anti-pitch sensor on drivers door on Alfa 159? And if yes then how, which pins did you use and the value of resistor.

TNX

dennis147
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by dennis147 » 09 May 2011, 20:10

bubu321 wrote:- 1K5 0.1W and must add diode 1N4148 for temperature compensation.
- supply for this circuit is + 5V.
- circuit diagram:

windows controller
+5V -> 1K0 >- 1N4148 >- point of K22, K23 ->100K to uprocessor.
K22 (K23) -> connector -> outside: (i'll try this inside ) 1k5 -> Anode 1N4148 cathode to GND.
Hi, can you please draw the schematic on this picture you posted... it would be much easier to understand...

Works only for 147 after 2005, why not before 2005?

greets

dennis147
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by dennis147 » 11 May 2011, 18:30

bubu321 wrote:- 1K5 0.1W and must add diode 1N4148 for temperature compensation.
- supply for this circuit is + 5V.
- circuit diagram:

windows controller
+5V -> 1K0 >- 1N4148 >- point of K22, K23 ->100K to uprocessor.
K22 (K23) -> connector -> outside: (i'll try this inside ) 1k5 -> Anode 1N4148 cathode to GND.
Did i right understand,

one piece 1k5 0,1w resistor and one piece 1N4148 diode between pin 3-2 on H44a? the same on pin 9-8 for the passenger window?

greets

TribesMan
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by TribesMan » 14 May 2011, 15:15

OK, now if I understand this right...

Inside windows controller there is a circuit consisting of +5V -> 1k -> 1N4148 -> pin 2/3 (or 9/8 for passenger window) of the H44 connector. So one pin of the window pinch sensor is connected to the microprocessor, and the other pin is connected to GND.

Then all you have to do is to connect 2 components on the outside of the windows controller. 1k5 resistor wired in series with 1N4148 diode.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

illiac4
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by illiac4 » 15 May 2011, 04:29

Hi Tribes. Do you have Alfa 159? Well if you do and could tell me where this pin is i can help further with program testing, because Yani gave me custom made program for this to investigate and include in future versions,
On my Alfa 159 i can not find this pin.
The princip is actually simpl. The sensor must report the voltage around 3,2V. On (unknown pin :) ) it will be probably 5V so with resistor you will downgrade to around 3,2V so the system will think that you have sensor installed.
On Alfa 159 the drivers door has no sensor. But i can not find the pin. It is not on controller for windows and mirrors.

euroscan
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by euroscan » 16 May 2011, 10:17

- for 147 TS try this solution, exchange version of body software.
- version 0600 don't working.
- if u downgrade to version 0504 , it's working after added emulator and run Proxy alugnment.
http://img171.imageshack.us/i/bsistarebody.jpg/
http://img844.imageshack.us/i/bsibodyodanglika.jpg/

TribesMan
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by TribesMan » 16 May 2011, 11:06

iliac4 no I dont have 159... I have 147. Cant help you much.

euroscan how do you change the software on the body computer?!?! Can it be done at home or you have to do it at the Alfa Romeo dealer?

euroscan
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by euroscan » 16 May 2011, 11:27

- at home with UPA , ETL programmer.
http://img843.imageshack.us/i/upa7bsi.jpg/

marqo
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by marqo » 17 May 2011, 16:09

illiac4 wrote:On Alfa 159 the drivers door has no sensor. But i can not find the pin. It is not on controller for windows and mirrors.
Image
Alfa 159 1.9 JTDm 16V 180CV noDPF
Fiat 500X CityLook 1.6 e-torque 110CV

illiac4
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Re: Closing windows with the remote key AR 147

Post by illiac4 » 18 May 2011, 04:43

TNX. So it means it is under the cover? I assume that it is the black box? Which pins?
Did you try it by yourself and it works? Which resistor did you use?
Did actually someone already try this out? Does also the firmware of ECU need to be changed?

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