Difference in the list of Giulia modules...

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dusan147
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Difference in the list of Giulia modules...

Post by dusan147 » 09 Aug 2022, 13:25

Version MES 5.0.
When perform "Scan DTC (F12)" or "Scan (F11)", using ELM327 1.4 + adapters 5 and 6, it is evident the list of modules is different in comparison with list of modules in particular sections for Alfa Romeo Giulia 2.2 MultiJet 16V.
Which is reason of this?
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shpuncik
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Re: Difference in the list of Giulia modules...

Post by shpuncik » 09 Aug 2022, 16:00

they are not supported yet.

dusan147
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Re: Difference in the list of Giulia modules...

Post by dusan147 » 09 Aug 2022, 16:26

If they aren't supported how they appear in DTC scan list and how is possible to clean errors connected to these?
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chrener
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Re: Difference in the list of Giulia modules...

Post by chrener » 11 Aug 2022, 11:27

Hi!
Which modules do you mean?

dusan147
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Re: Difference in the list of Giulia modules...

Post by dusan147 » 12 Aug 2022, 14:32

Following modules discovered by use of ELM327 and adapters 5 and 6 (nonexistent modules and discovered by MES, but no in Giulia 2.2 MultiJet list on MES site):

Engine / ECM
Bosch EDC17C69 CF6/EOBD Diesel Injection (2.2)[color]

Urea/AdBlue dosing module Continental - nonexistent

Gearbox / DTCM (Drive Train Control Module)
Magna Q4 Transfer Case

Gearbox / TCM/NCA/NCR (Automatic Transmission)
ZF 8HP50/75 Automatic Gearbox

Gearbox / ESM/GSM/NSC (Gearbox Selector Module)
ZF Electronic Gear Shift Module

Gearbox / CDCM (Chassis Domain Control Module)
UNKNOWN/UNSUPPORTED
Errors found: (https://www.dtcdecode.com/Alfa-Romeo/U1706-86)
U1706-86


ABS / ABS/BSM (Brake System Module)
Continental ABS MK C1

Other / DASM (Driver Assistant System Module)
Driver assistant system module (DASM) radar Bosch
Errors found: (https://www.dtcdecode.com/Alfa-Romeo/C141C-86)
C141C-86 - Private CAN between HALF and DASM - Signal/message invalid

Other / HALF (Haptical Lane Feedback Module)
Haptical lane feedback (HALF) camera Bosch


Torque vectoring module (TVM) - nonexistent

Airbag / NAB/ORC (Airbag/Occupant Restraint Module)
Bosch Airbag


Steering Lock TRW - nonexistent

Electric Steering / EPS (Electric Steering Module)
ZF Electric Steering


Amplifier module Ask/Beats - nonexistent

Engine sound enhancement module (ESEM) - nonexistent


Dashboard / IPC (Instrument Panel Cluster)
Instrument Panel Continental

Dashboard / ETM (Entertainment Telematic Module)
Marelli AlfaConnect Radio/Nav

Dashboard / EMCM (Entertainment multimedia control module)
Multimedia control module (multifunction knob/joystick/touchpad)

Body / BCM (Body Computer Module)
Body Computer Marelli (952)
Errors found: (https://www.dtcdecode.com/Alfa-Romeo/U197C-83)
U197C-83 - Error in communication with Automatic transmission - Value of signal protection calculation incorrect

Body / RFHUB (Radio Frequency Hub Module)
Radio frequency hub (RFHUB) Continental
Errors found: (https://www.dtcdecode.com/Alfa-Romeo/B1040-64 https://www.dtcdecode.com/Alfa-Romeo/U2062-87)
B1040-64 - Communication with Body Computer (BCM/NBC) - Signal/message plausibility
U2062-87 - Error in communication with Instrument Cluster (IPC/NQS) - Missing message


Comfort rear seat (CRSM) Bitron - nonexistent

Climate control / CSWM (Comfort Seat and Wheel Module)
Comfort seat and wheel (CSWM) Bitron

Climate control / HVAC (Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning)
TRW climate control (Automatic)

Other / AFLS/NFA (Self-adaptive Headlamps Module)
Automotive Lighting adaptive headlights

Other / LBSS (Left Blind Spot Sensor)
Blind Spot Sensor Autoliv (Left)

Other / RBSS (Right Blind Spot Sensor)
Blind Spot Sensor Autoliv (Right)

Other / PAM/NSP (Parking Sensors Module)
Parking control Bosch
Last edited by dusan147 on 13 Aug 2022, 07:59, edited 1 time in total.
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chrener
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Re: Difference in the list of Giulia modules...

Post by chrener » 12 Aug 2022, 15:56

MES can scan only modules really installed in car...
Whats your car production year?

Urea is in newest models 2021+...
Torque vectoring module is only in QV models...
Amplifier is only in cars with premium music...
ETC

For your information MES knows about 100 modules, but they cant be instelled in one car all together....

dusan147
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Re: Difference in the list of Giulia modules...

Post by dusan147 » 12 Aug 2022, 18:34

Yes, it can be logical explanation... My Giulia (2.2, Veloce, Q4, AT8, ) is from December, 2016.
How look listed errors?
I found formal explanation for them on https://www.dtcdecode.com/Alfa-Romeo.
They appear after any driving.
I delete them and they appear again.
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